Comments on: Green New Deal 2009 http://www.sustainablecityblog.com/2008/12/green-new-deal-2009-three-plans/ A blog on cities, design, planning and sustainable development, featuring work by Jesse Fox and others. Thu, 19 Aug 2010 20:02:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: johnny http://www.sustainablecityblog.com/2008/12/green-new-deal-2009-three-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-17 johnny Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:50:55 +0000 http://www.jessefoxblog.com/?p=612#comment-17 Thanks for good post Thanks for good post

]]> By: Allen Taylor http://www.sustainablecityblog.com/2008/12/green-new-deal-2009-three-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-6 Allen Taylor Sat, 20 Dec 2008 15:01:12 +0000 http://www.jessefoxblog.com/?p=612#comment-6 Nice writing. You are on my RSS reader now so I can read more from you down the road. Allen Taylor Nice writing. You are on my RSS reader now so I can read more from you down the road.

Allen Taylor

]]> By: Adrian Florerani http://www.sustainablecityblog.com/2008/12/green-new-deal-2009-three-plans/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Adrian Florerani Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:53:42 +0000 http://www.jessefoxblog.com/?p=612#comment-4 The War To Save Our Planet and Save Our Economy With the government now in the banking and auto business, why not the energy business? We know the war business. My background has included developing hydrogen fuel cell systems for the chalanging Apollo program. Now, over 30 years later, GM and other car manufactures around the world have developed hydrogen automobiles with refined hydrogen fuel cell power plants. The only waste byproducts from these "green" cars is water. The giant chalange here is we need massive amounts of hydrogen to run them at a reasonable cost of production and distribution. My vision is for our government to build an “energy fleet” consisting of ships that would travel the world producing and selling hydrogen. Selling energy to foreign markets instead of buying it like we do now. Germany is now undertaking this idea using wind power on board ships. In my vision, the hydrogen is produced from sea water using state of the art high temperature nuclear reactors cooled by sea water. On board production is done far out to sea away from population centers and sensitive eco systems. This relatively newly developed technology can produce energy to run our cars with the cost efficiency close to that of oil. This newer method described above could bring costs for production and distribution under $3 a gallon equivalent. The fuel cell powered cars do not depend on large expensive batteries as do current electric automobiles. Think of all the people we could put to work building this energy fleet of ships and the hydrogen powered automobiles. And put this investment back into our treasury from the proceeds coming from foreign trade. Selling stock in the government, i.e.. treasury bonds, like we did so well during the second world war, could help fund this program. Remember the Liberty ships? The US built over 2700 ships in four years to support the war effort. Now we have a greater war to win, not save our liberty, but to save our planet and our economy. Even with all the projects Rosevelt started to bring us out of depression, it took the Second World War effort to bring prosperity back to our country. adrian@FloSkis.com The War To Save Our Planet and Save Our Economy

With the government now in the banking and auto business, why not the energy business? We know the war business.
My background has included developing hydrogen fuel cell systems for the chalanging Apollo program. Now, over 30 years later, GM and other car manufactures around the world have developed hydrogen automobiles with refined hydrogen fuel cell power plants. The only waste byproducts from these “green” cars is water. The giant chalange here is we need massive amounts of hydrogen to run them at a reasonable cost of production and distribution. My vision is for our government to build an “energy fleet” consisting of ships that would travel the world producing and selling hydrogen. Selling energy to foreign markets instead of buying it like we do now. Germany is now undertaking this idea using wind power on board ships.
In my vision, the hydrogen is produced from sea water using state of the art high temperature nuclear reactors cooled by sea water. On board production is done far out to sea away from population centers and sensitive eco systems. This relatively newly developed technology can produce energy to run our cars with the cost efficiency close to that of oil. This newer method described above could bring costs for production and distribution under $3 a gallon equivalent. The fuel cell powered cars do not depend on large expensive batteries as do current electric automobiles.
Think of all the people we could put to work building this energy fleet of ships and the hydrogen powered automobiles. And put this investment back into our treasury from the proceeds coming from foreign trade. Selling stock in the government, i.e.. treasury bonds, like we did so well during the second world war, could help fund this program. Remember the Liberty ships? The US built over 2700 ships in four years to support the war effort. Now we have a greater war to win, not save our liberty, but to save our planet and our economy. Even with all the projects Rosevelt started to bring us out of depression, it took the Second World War effort to bring prosperity back to our country.

adrian@FloSkis.com

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